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		<title>By: The Myth of Discipline &#124; The Currensee Exchange &#124; Forex Trading Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Myth of Discipline &#124; The Currensee Exchange &#124; Forex Trading Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 17:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Myth of Discipline  Posted by John Forman in Pips Weigh In, tags: Forex, psychology of forex trading, trading, trading discipline        function fbs_click() { u=location.href; t=document.title; window.open(&#039;http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=&#039;+encodeURIComponent(u)+&#039;&amp;t=&#039;+encodeURIComponent(t),&#039; sharer&#039;, &#039;toolbar=0, status=0, width=626, height=436&#039;); return false; }     Author Bio  var addthis_product = &#039;wpp-257&#039;; var addthis_config = {&quot;data_track_clickback&quot;:false,&quot;ui_language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;};I read a blog post recently titled the Myth of Discipline. It&#8217;s not specifically about trading, but the concept of discipline is one that comes up frequently among traders, so it caught my attention. I have long been annoyed by the &#8220;You have to be disciplined&#8221; advice (if you want to call it that) tosses out, especially when it comes to trading psychology. Trading discipline isnâ€™t a matter of just deciding to be disciplined. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Myth of Discipline  Posted by John Forman in Pips Weigh In, tags: Forex, psychology of forex trading, trading, trading discipline        function fbs_click() { u=location.href; t=document.title; window.open(&#039;<a href="http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=&#039;+encodeURIComponent(u)+&#039;&#038;t=&#039;+encodeURIComponent(t),&#038;#039" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=&#039;+encodeURIComponent(u)+&#039;&#038;t=&#039;+encodeURIComponent(t),&#038;#039</a>; sharer&#039;, &#039;toolbar=0, status=0, width=626, height=436&#039;); return false; }     Author Bio  var addthis_product = &#039;wpp-257&#039;; var addthis_config = {&quot;data_track_clickback&quot;:false,&quot;ui_language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;};I read a blog post recently titled the Myth of Discipline. It&#8217;s not specifically about trading, but the concept of discipline is one that comes up frequently among traders, so it caught my attention. I have long been annoyed by the &#8220;You have to be disciplined&#8221; advice (if you want to call it that) tosses out, especially when it comes to trading psychology. Trading discipline isnâ€™t a matter of just deciding to be disciplined. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: If You Don&#8217;t Learn This Skill Early You&#8217;ll Always Wish You Had &#124; tradingadviceblog.com</title>
		<link>http://theessentialsoftrading.com/Blog/index.php/2008/08/05/trading-discipline-isnt-a-matter-of-just-deciding-to-be-disciplined/#comment-12588</link>
		<dc:creator>If You Don&#8217;t Learn This Skill Early You&#8217;ll Always Wish You Had &#124; tradingadviceblog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments of a recent post on theessentialsoftrading.com a conversation began about the relative importance of psychology in trading success. Someone [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mo Christiensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo Christiensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, trading is like a stool with three legs - system/method, money management, and mindset.  If any one of them is missing or ignored you fall over!

I&#039;m the first to agree that trading is not all psychology, but I&#039;m also the first to point out to traders that I speak to, not to underestimate its importance.

Perhaps part of the issue is that the word psychology has such negative connotations.  Perhaps if we talked in terms of thinking strategies or mindset it would be better? 

Many traders have potentially profitable trading systems with a great edge that they just can&#039;t trade successful because they haven&#039;t learned to address the big mindset issues - accepting risk, not needing to be right, staying objective so that they don&#039;t see things in the charts that aren&#039;t there etc etc.  These issues keep contributing to their inability to be consistent.

My philosophy is find an edge (and continue to make sure it is an edge), put in place sound money management strategies - and then put every ounce of your effort into refining your ability to execute that edge consistently by working on your mindset (and everything that entails). 

All the best

Mo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, trading is like a stool with three legs &#8211; system/method, money management, and mindset.  If any one of them is missing or ignored you fall over!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the first to agree that trading is not all psychology, but I&#8217;m also the first to point out to traders that I speak to, not to underestimate its importance.</p>
<p>Perhaps part of the issue is that the word psychology has such negative connotations.  Perhaps if we talked in terms of thinking strategies or mindset it would be better? </p>
<p>Many traders have potentially profitable trading systems with a great edge that they just can&#8217;t trade successful because they haven&#8217;t learned to address the big mindset issues &#8211; accepting risk, not needing to be right, staying objective so that they don&#8217;t see things in the charts that aren&#8217;t there etc etc.  These issues keep contributing to their inability to be consistent.</p>
<p>My philosophy is find an edge (and continue to make sure it is an edge), put in place sound money management strategies &#8211; and then put every ounce of your effort into refining your ability to execute that edge consistently by working on your mindset (and everything that entails). </p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Mo</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I would say about psychology is that it&#039;s not something which will really positively impact your trading much, but boy can it destroy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I would say about psychology is that it&#8217;s not something which will really positively impact your trading much, but boy can it destroy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Thanks for the feedback on his first book.

re &quot;psychology is overblown&quot; - I&#039;ve heard people say that &quot;trading is all psychology&quot;, that mastering psychology and discipline is the single most important factor in trading, that emotions are the single greatest block to trading success, that emotional skill is more important than picking entries and exits, money management, and risk management.  There have been a number of books that are solely devoted to psychology and typically fall into this trap.

I know that Brett has specifically attacked these views (http://www.traderfeed.blogspot.com/2006/12/three-pervasive-myths-of-trading.html) which is why I was interested in his books in the first place.  Framing trading as a performance activity does help put psychology and other factors into their proper place - you need to achieve some minimal level of competence but ultimately trading is about trading, not mind games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback on his first book.</p>
<p>re &#8220;psychology is overblown&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;ve heard people say that &#8220;trading is all psychology&#8221;, that mastering psychology and discipline is the single most important factor in trading, that emotions are the single greatest block to trading success, that emotional skill is more important than picking entries and exits, money management, and risk management.  There have been a number of books that are solely devoted to psychology and typically fall into this trap.</p>
<p>I know that Brett has specifically attacked these views (<a href="http://www.traderfeed.blogspot.com/2006/12/three-pervasive-myths-of-trading.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.traderfeed.blogspot.com/2006/12/three-pervasive-myths-of-trading.html</a>) which is why I was interested in his books in the first place.  Framing trading as a performance activity does help put psychology and other factors into their proper place &#8211; you need to achieve some minimal level of competence but ultimately trading is about trading, not mind games.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyro: While I definitely find Brett&#039;s first book a refreshing change from the more common &quot;just be disciplined&quot; dogma spewed by so many others, I think he probably included enough of the same primary content in ETP to suffice for those who&#039;ve read that book. 

I&#039;m hesitant to agree with you on your feeling that &quot;psychology is overblown&quot; without really knowing what that means. Do I think some folks improperly place it on top of everything else and claim it&#039;s the most important thing? Yes, I do. Brett does too. That said, do I think psychology is important in trading? Absolutely - as it is in all performance activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyro: While I definitely find Brett&#8217;s first book a refreshing change from the more common &#8220;just be disciplined&#8221; dogma spewed by so many others, I think he probably included enough of the same primary content in ETP to suffice for those who&#8217;ve read that book. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hesitant to agree with you on your feeling that &#8220;psychology is overblown&#8221; without really knowing what that means. Do I think some folks improperly place it on top of everything else and claim it&#8217;s the most important thing? Yes, I do. Brett does too. That said, do I think psychology is important in trading? Absolutely &#8211; as it is in all performance activities.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did you think of &quot;The Psychology of Trading&quot; overall?  I&#039;ve felt psychology is overblown so haven&#039;t read it yet but &quot;Enhancing Trading Performance&quot; was an excellent book.  Steenbarger&#039;s comment about a lack of discipline often being a symptom of a mismatch between a trader and the trading style really opened my eyes.  It cast my problems day trading in an entirely new light and the next week I dropped day trading entirely and turned to swing trading and my results have finally taken flight.  A few gems like that can make a whole book worthwhile.

I too don&#039;t have any psychology background, but I heartily agree with you that, in my case, the struggles I had weren&#039;t solved by psychology but by finding a better match for my abilities.  I believe that the idea of working on your weaknesses may be a good idea for an elite performer but for the rest of us the best results come when we find a way to minimize the consequence of our weaknesses while focusing on our strengths.  We&#039;d be more successful and much happier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did you think of &#8220;The Psychology of Trading&#8221; overall?  I&#8217;ve felt psychology is overblown so haven&#8217;t read it yet but &#8220;Enhancing Trading Performance&#8221; was an excellent book.  Steenbarger&#8217;s comment about a lack of discipline often being a symptom of a mismatch between a trader and the trading style really opened my eyes.  It cast my problems day trading in an entirely new light and the next week I dropped day trading entirely and turned to swing trading and my results have finally taken flight.  A few gems like that can make a whole book worthwhile.</p>
<p>I too don&#8217;t have any psychology background, but I heartily agree with you that, in my case, the struggles I had weren&#8217;t solved by psychology but by finding a better match for my abilities.  I believe that the idea of working on your weaknesses may be a good idea for an elite performer but for the rest of us the best results come when we find a way to minimize the consequence of our weaknesses while focusing on our strengths.  We&#8217;d be more successful and much happier.</p>
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